‘Gun free’ military bases and dangerous psychiatric drugs: a lethal mixture

I’m sure you heard the news. Another mass shooting. Another at a military base, no less. Another at Fort Hood, specifically.

Ivan Lopez opened fire, killed three people and injured 16 before committing suicide.

Of course, the usual suspects don’t even wait for the bodies to be recovered before they start clamoring for gun control. The shooting spree ended when a woman with a gun stood up to the assailant, but that fact conveniently evades these exploitative clowns.

The rest of us continue to grapple with the age old problem of how best to confront the basic and unavoidable reality that evil people will do evil things, while these imbecilic loudmouths cowardly glaze over the complexities of the issue, in favor of infusing moral significance into an inanimate object — an inanimate object that is quite often the only thing that will stop those evil people once they’ve begun to carry out that evil thing.

Same old story. We’ve had this debate a thousand times. Tragically, we’ll have it a thousand more times.

And, because I often take it upon myself to argue with fools, I can’t help but jump into the fray here.

In light of this shooting, and every other, and even regardless of any particular incident, we all need to consider the following two points:

1) ‘Gun control’ could only hypothetically stop violence if we could figure out a way to eradicate all guns everywhere from everyone, and get rid of other forms of weaponry, and abolish the malice in the hearts of men, and effectively outlaw hate, anger, greed and mental disorders, and require all people to be peaceful, kind and trustworthy. We merely have to make all of humanity family friendly, non-violent, and G-rated.

Then again, some skeptics might raise a couple of objections to this proposal: namely, it sounds expensive. Also, it’s insane.

What we are then left contemplating is how to best equip and protect ourselves from the reality of evil, of which gun violence is only but a symptom. In fact, while we have that conversation, we should also discuss the possibility of at least, to begin with, equipping our military.

Fort Hood, in compliance with DoD regulations, does not allow most of its military personnel to carry weapons on base.

Now, I love this country, I really do. But we’ve got a brand of stupid in this nation that’s hard to find anywhere else on Earth, let alone the galaxy. Back in the Roman days, soldiers were required to be armed at all times, under penalty of death. Yet here we confiscate their personal firearms and tell them to keep their military issued weapons locked away, which leads directly to these sorts of situations.

We trust these people to fight wars, operate battleships, fly jets, drop bombs, use drones, go on Special Forces missions, but we don’t think they’re competent or psychologically stable enough to carry a weapon to work without accidentally shooting each other?

In my innocence, prior to the (first) Fort Hood rampage, I sort of assumed that the military members on a military base would be perpetually locked and loaded every day — because, you know, it’s a military base. It’s a target. It’s a place where everyone ought to be prepared for the worst, because that’s why it exists. It’s a military base. These are trained and disciplined men and women. These people are in the military. Their weapons are tools of their trade. It’s a military base, for God’s sake.

Back when I didn’t know any better, I had an adorably naive confidence that, say, a trained Marine Corps sniper, who assassinates high valued targets from a distance of 800 meters for a living, might be allowed to keep a holstered firearm on his person when he enters an American military installation. But I was wrong.

A military base in the United States should be the last place on the planet where anyone could hope to successfully carry out a mass killing. But here we are. Again.

The feds tell us we are in a permanent state of war, so why is our military in a permanent state of disarmament?

2) Guns are only part of this story — and not the most important part. At some point, as uncomfortable as it may be, we need to seriously talk about psychiatric drugs.

This guy was reportedly on a ‘cocktail’ of drugs, including antidepressants and Ambien.

Please understand, when I say we need to ‘talk about psychiatric drugs,’ I don’t mean it in the same way that many people mean it. They want to talk about strategies to best ensure that we are shoving these pills down as many throats as possible. I, on the other hand, want to guide the conversation in the opposite direction.

The FDA has attached words and phrases like hostility, impulsivity, panic attacks, agitation, homicidal ideation, mania, violent behavior, and psychotic episodes to the list of side effects for numerous psychiatric medications.

Indeed, a thorough review of FDA data confirmed that there is an association between psychotropic pills and these kinds of “adverse events.”

It’s particularly notable that the shooter was evidently taking Ambien, seeing as how Ambien has been especially linked to “violent outbursts.” It’s even been successfully used as a defense in murder trials.

I will admit: I am probably more concerned about side effects than I need to be. My wife will tell you that I’m reluctant to even take Tylenol because I’ve read the warning label on the bottle. But I have to believe that I’m not being paranoid when I question the wisdom of wantonly prescribing substances that could, and have been known to, cause homicidal thoughts and hostile behavior.

It’s one thing for a medication to manifest physical side effects. These, however, are “side effects” that invade your very mind and capture your thoughts. They warp your perceptions and cloud your soul. I don’t even understand how a drug could mess with your conscience in that way, and nobody does. No matter what anyone says, there isn’t a human being on the planet who really, fully understands how our minds can be twisted and controlled by an artificial substance. This is outside the bounds of psychiatry and neuroscience. We’ve ventured into something metaphysical and spiritual.

This is serious business, in other words. I’m not saying that nobody should ever take a psychiatric drug, but I am saying that we should tread in those waters with great caution and discipline. Yet, one in five American adults takes psychotropic meds. Is that caution and discipline? No, that’s a godforsaken smorgasbord.

I’m also saying that mass shooters are frequently on this stuff. How can we so quickly dismiss the potential role that a drug plays in a violent episode, when the drug is known to cause violent episodes?

It doesn’t make any sense.

Well, it does make sense, I guess.

I already solved the mystery of our silence: one in five of us are taking psychiatric drugs. Millions of us have our kids on these medications. Hence, we take the conversation as a personal affront against ourselves and our children, and so we change the subject and stick our heads back into the pill-bottle-littered sand.

Nothing gets better because we’re afraid to honestly inspect the problem.

It’s time to stop the madness.


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188 Responses to ‘Gun free’ military bases and dangerous psychiatric drugs: a lethal mixture

  1. Molly says:

    Well said! I completely agree with you! I’m sure there were multiple contributing factors to what caused this man to start shooting, but it is frightening the effects that some prescription drugs can have on people’s behaviors. I’ve seen it in my own 5 year old son, who has become much more irritable and defiant since starting Singulair. A few months ago he started taking it because he was having asthma attacks that couldn’t be controlled by an inhaler alone (thereby requiring oral steroids for a few days, with even worse side effects). He took it for 3 months to test its effectiveness in preventing asthma attacks. It did its job perfectly, but he had major behavior challenges during that time. He went off it for a couple weeks and became a much more pleasant child. Unfortunately, the uncontrolled asthma also returned and we were forced to decide between having a better behaved wheezing child and a defiant child who could breathe, which is what he became after going back on it 2 weeks ago. Irritability is a known side effect of Singulair, so I can only imagine how much other drugs, with an even worse list of side effects, can alter behavior in others. I’m not excusing the gunman’s behavior, in the same way I still discipline my son’s outbursts rather than excuse them.

    • Sherry says:

      Our two children’s asthma has basically vanished since we removed artificial dyes and corn syrup from their diets. While everyone may not be sensitive to the same things, there are some connections between dyes, especially yellow, and asthma. All of that to say, it’s not just the chemicals in medicines, but chemicals in our food supply also.

      • Dreadpiratk says:

        My daughters’ hyper activity, aggression and defiance stopped when we eliminated all food dyes, especially Red #5 and Yellow. How many kids are on Ritalin because of their diets?

    • Jane says:

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    • Hello, this note is simply a reach out. The list of child “effects” is of concern. Every child is different so use caution.
      Consider finding a real farm and ask if you may bring your child along to volunteer to help with the animals. Feeding, cleaning, if nothing else, re- stack several hundred bales of hay in the barn, when it’s hot in the summer, lots of water, lots of sweat, please ease into this and double the exertion on the second outing. Find out what works best?

  2. blert says:

    It’s not a new thing that our members of the military are disarmed. My grandfather, back when Pearl Harbor was bombed, had to join with other men on his ship to smash open locks just to be able to shoot back. No one on duty even had the keys. Sailors serving on a U.S. battleship literally didn’t even have rocks to throw back at the planes during the early minutes of the attack.

    For the sake of liberty, I’m skeptical that we ought to encourage arming members of the military at all times when they are on U.S. soil. The military fights against external enemies, not against the American people, so there isn’t much reason why they should be armed in America. But marking a military base a gun-free zone also strikes me as silly. Security concerns dictate that enough people be armed that lunatics and terrorists are discouraged from what would otherwise be an easy target.

    • Josiah says:

      The military is in place to defend from enemies “foreign AND domestic.” It’s in their oath.

    • Amber says:

      I disagree. The states “…protect against all enemies- foreign and domestic…”

      Also, considering that military sites are targets for terrorists, and require constant security, it would only be logical for more than just a few MPs to be armed. Maybe it’s not necessary for everyone to be, but definitely more are needed.

      • Amber says:

        Correction: The oath states ‘…

        • Bob says:

          You need to be corrected again. I actually WAS in the military, and with each enlistment I swore:

          “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).


    • Erin says:

      “The military fights against external enemies, not against the American people…”

      Hassan and Alexis were both American’s that did exceptionally grave damage to the United States on U.S. Soil. I’m sure there were countless others and I am sure there will be others in the future.

    • Alsatian says:

      What would be wrong with allowing military personnel to be armed? The guys with ill intent will have weapons, cause they don’t care about rules. Only the good guys follow the rules and are left as sitting ducks. I don’t understand your logic.

      • donshomette says:

        I was in the Marines. Part of the reason for the ban on weapons on base is because of the fear that drunk and angry soldiers (Marines, airmen,etc) will use them more often on each other if readily accessible. I do not agree with this, but when our personal weapons had to be locked in the armory that was the reason given in writing.

  3. Crystal says:

    As an American military wife, I’d like to remind people that the military stations us in countries where citizens aren’t allowed to have guns (like the UK), puts us in off-base housing (because many of the old bases aren’t big enough for today’s needs) and then leaves us on our own. In other words, American MPs aren’t helping or patrolling, because it’s off-base and that’s not their assigned area. And neither are the local cops, because it’s an American base. Our husbands are often deployed or gone, and all the local criminals know it. So much for the importance of military families — we are left completely defenseless, our guns locked up thousands of miles away and no police help whatsoever.

    • Abby says:

      Yes but the UK is not the Wild West. Them locals don’t shoot so why should you be able to shoot them? Because you’re American and it’s your right? If there’s a problem call the police, be polite and they’ll be over in a jiffy.

      • cdciii says:

        That worked well for Lee Rigby, didn’t it? How long did it take for police to get to him after he’s been hit by a couple of Islamic terrorists in a car just outside of the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich SE London? Certainly not in time to keep them from sawing his head off after running him down …

        • Eva says:

          Lee Rigby wasn’t on his base, he was on the street walking towards his base. He was randomly targeted by a couple of terrorists who had to hit him with a car and hack him to death with a machete before they killed him.
          It was horrible, disgusting, vile, evil and downright psychotic. But it was also incredibly shocking. Because this kind of stuff almost never happens. In the UK no one has guns so no one shoots anyone. Occasionally, someone gets hold of a gun and when that happens it’s so shocking that every aspect of law enforcement gets involved – how did the perpetrator get the gun? What kind of gun? Where did it come from?. In the UK if you want to kill someone you have to get right up close and kill them. In America it seems that you can reach for the hand gun under your parents’ bed one morning, wander into a school or a mall or a military base and just start shooting.

      • WalshFan says:

        I don’t think I’ve ever read a more ignorant comment.

    • The Mommy says:

      Really? My naivite continues to be exposed…
      Thank you (and your husband) for your service.

  4. Kim says:

    My husband has suicidal tendencies for reasons we have not understood. Just the right amount of his drug keeps this at bay, but higher dosages lead to a disconnection from life, compounding the suicidal problem. I have two friends on anxiety meds and both are almost non functioning. I’m wondering if people are answering medicated psych problems with more medication rather than cognitive behavior therapies, and eventually the amount of meds that can kill a horse is driving those mad.

    Once I was in a class that presented serious studies about stress reactions/spirituality connection performed by top notch study groups, such as Johns Hopkins. Over and over, these studies showed that people handled daily stress to tragic events in this order: the best were those who had a deep relationship with God; second were those who outright rejected God; third were those who had no opinion of either; last were those who said they were in a relationship with God but didn’t live the life they describe as good. Ever since this class, I noted a pattern from people, particularity my above friends, not able to handle life, needing meds to help.

    Revelation 3:15-16 calls for a decision, and as USA becomes more apathetic, these results shouldn’t surprise anyone.

  5. Blake Law says:

    In the gun control advocate’s mind, we live in a world of mostly children (with a tiny percentage of adults with badges that should be armed). “Bullies” like SPC Lopez may be a problem, but if all the other children carry guns we’d have an even bigger problem than the bullies.

    In the real world, adults are adults. We may wish that more adults were more responsible, but they simply aren’t. Even adults with badges can be irresponsible. The solution is not to try and reduce the general population to the level of children. Children are easy targets.

    On a related note, I recently wrote on considerations from Scripture on ministers carrying guns.

  6. Mr. Walsh you are totally UNQULIFIED to express any views on the Service and the use of Psychotropic drugs. You have a let God do the work and get well attitude that is not only dangerous but absolutely cruel to those of us who have seen combat. You don’t dream and see your Chief die in a gas attack, you don’t wake up screaming at 0430 and unable to go back to sleep because your sleep is dangerous, you are to DAMM scared to sign the line and lay you ass out to get shot off. You would remove the limited psychiatric care and just let us walk around. You sir are a pansy who has no idea what myself and my comrades halve gone through. You say well done and then please go hide because you scare us. Well you sir can shove e it. You are the worst type of Christian. You don’t want to help those of us with broken bodies and broken minds you just want us go away. I did my 23 years. Now because of a violent episode I can’t get a job because NO BODY wants a vet with emotional problems. None of us know what demons this kid in Killeen had but we do know that the daemons won and he committed suicide except in his case he took three others with him. This kid is just one more of the 1900 suicides that the DOD expects this coming year. That’s one every four hours and fifteen minutes. And you sir would remove any psychiatric help from them. You are absurd. You are a mouth piece for the GOP who does NOT want to pay the cost of Afghanistan and Iraq in either debt, broken minds, broken bodies and broken sprits. I ask you what have you done for your Nation. I gave up 14 inches of lg intestine, nine years with my family, and now my future employment so you can sit there and take all the benefits that this Nation has, belittle me, and take my benefits. Go to Hades.

    • mo says:

      @ MSGT Fred Damedron USAF(RET) say

      “You have a let God do the work and get well attitude that is not only dangerous but absolutely cruel to those of us who have seen combat. ”

      Where in this post do you see this?

      “And you sir would remove any psychiatric help from them.:

      Where in this post do you see this?

      The rest of your rant has nothing whatsoever to do with this post. It’s just hatred.

      “Go to Hades.”

      Feel the love!

    • cdciii says:

      Mater Sargent, I must say that you present a compelling argument for the use of calming drugs on certain dangerously angry people. You also seem good at shouting down opinions you don’t like with irrelevancies.

      1900 military personnel commit suicide each year? Is that figure cross referenced with how many of them take the medication prescribed by doctors in the first place? Is that figure active personnel or does it include inactive as well? The very drugs you claim are helping may be killing (and almost certainly have) through pernicious side effects THAT ARE KNOWN about them.

      As to bitterness, the only cure for that is to die to your own self interests and live to serve others. When you serve your self, you have a cruel, insatiable master…

    • Ross says:

      Matt wasn’t saying we should remove all psychiatric drugs from usage, just that we should be a lot more careful with them instead of giving them out like candy just because someone says they have PTSD.

      Don’t make this guy into some kind of PTSD-afflicted martyr just because he happened to be in the military. He did a single four-month deployment to Iraq, during which he saw no combat. To claim that “PTSD” was the cause of his actions is as absurd as if he were someone who had worked at McDonald’s his entire life. He obviously had his demons, but they weren’t because he was some afflicted hero who lost a struggle with the effects of combat. Painting him in that light is disrespectful to his victims and their families. Do I need to remind you that they were serving in the military, too?

      And while we’re on the subject of not making martyrs, don’t make yourself into one, either. Matt was clearly not trying to insult you or say you shouldn’t have access to psychiatric help. I served in the military myself, DID see combat, and don’t go flying off the handle every time anyone who hasn’t served expresses an opinion that isn’t “thanks for your service, you’re my hero, you’re so great!”. Thanks for your service and I’m sorry that you’re suffering, but if you think those things somehow entitle you to a life of everyone kissing your butt (which is an attitude I see with way too many veterans), you’re not living in reality, friend.

    • Hunter says:

      Dear Master Sergeant Damedron,

      I did not see the author of this article say you should not get your benefits. Nor did I see him belittling the plight of men like yourself, who have been physically and psychologically scarred by war.

      But, perhaps, if we can change the attitude that mental issues that come from horrific events are a weakness of the soldier, sailor, airman, or marine, and instead treat them as the results of trauma that we need to find a way to resolve, without mistreatment and forced retirement of the soldier, nor resorting to putting him on a cocktail of drugs whose interactions we really don’t understand, it might turn out to be better for him.

      Psychiatric drugs don’t make the problem go away, they just make you not care about it.

      The author didn’t say a thing about denying benefits; didn’t day a thing about not helping men with battle scars recover from their wounds as much as is humanly possible, and didn’t say such men should be discarded. Under the current system, where you dope up and ignore men with problems, so they are docile and easy to ignore, it is this system that leads to unfortunate situations like you are in.

      I hope some opportunities open up for you. You obviously have a large amount of life, and fire in the belly. I wish you all the best.

  7. Delaney says:

    1 in 5 taking psychotropic meds is HUGE, and there’s no doubt it’s a complicated conundrum as to how they affect those with pre-existing mental issues. I’m on two different meds or I can’t get out of bed in the morning; but life is great, and I have no desire to harm myself or others. But someone else on the same cocktail might want to shoot up Fort Hood. It’s a problem that comes down to the individual and their heart, and unfortunately has to be treated individually vs. en masse policy — or so I think. But honestly, I have no idea how to fix this problem on a human level. God’s the only one who can save us now.

  8. Rachel says:

    People don’t want to discuss the role of the drugs in these tragedies because they have been trained to believe that we “need” this stuff. There is to much money tied behind and to the meds to ever make them into a bad thing.

  9. IT says:

    Spot on.

  10. analyticalperspective says:

    Did three-quarters of the population die? I thought this would be a hot topic for debate.

  11. “I already solved the mystery of our silence: one in five of us are taking psychiatric drugs. Millions of us have our kids on these medications. Hence, we take the conversation as a personal affront against ourselves and our children, and so we change the subject and stick our heads back into the pill-bottle-littered sand.” Matt Walsh

    Matt, could the silence also be due to something I wrote in 2010: http://ourgirlsclub.blogspot.com/2010/06/killing-life-and-liveliness.html

    Why are more and more people being diagnosed with mental illness? Laziness and narcissism are symptoms of mental illness, and they are at the root of all human evil. Most of us would prefer to follow rather than lead, because it requires more thinking to lead. When we give up our right to think for ourselves, we have entered a dangerous state of laziness, a condition ripe for others to control us. Why are there more and more psychopaths? Could it possibly be due to the stench in our society? Is it just so much harder to cope while living surrounded by so much filth? Consider the mobility of our society and the fewer meaningful connections we are making with each other? Could there be any correlation between mental illness, psychopathy and tossing God out of the public square? Can it have to do at all with how the cultural and intellectual elite want the common folk to be managed, kept quiet, under wraps, controlled and manipulated so we will not display passion about Jesus or about the corruption permeating our culture? I believe they want us drugged into submission, complacency, mediocrity and tolerance so their evil fog of progressivism can freely infiltrate this land and its people. They want us drugged so we won’t display all of the emotions with which God created us, so we won’t engage our brains to think for ourselves. They want us drugged so we will remain silently tucked away in our homes, not caring about the ever deepening pit of evil into which our country is wallowing. They want us to believe all is well. They want us to be a nation of cookie cutter people, unable to display our original creativity, for that scares them. It makes us unpredictable, and, therefore, harder to control. They want us to mind our own business, and to swallow the lie that the choices other people make for themselves won’t affect us. As Martin Luther King Jr. said in 1963, “Whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly … I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be.” Progressives will stop at nothing to acquire and maintain their covert agenda. Like Lazarus in John 12:10-11, “So the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and putting their faith in Him.” they want to kill me too. There are ways to kill life and liveliness without committing murder, and with their control, they want to destroy my liveliness. We may “break” a horse or even a child without harming a hair on it’s head. Erich Fromm was acutely sensitive to this fact when he broadened the definition of necrophilia to include the desire of certain people to control others – to make them controllable, to foster their dependency, to discourage their capacity to think for themselves, to diminish their unpredictability and originality, to keep them in line. Distinguishing it from a “biophilic” person, one who appreciates and fosters the variety of life forms and the uniqueness of the individual, he demonstrated a “necrophilia character type,” whose aim it is to avoid the inconvenience of life by transforming others into obedient automatons, robbing them of their humanity. Evil, then, is that force, residing either inside or outside of human beings, that seeks to kill life or liveliness.

    We are all born knowing God, with a conscience to divide between right and wrong. The truth, which is Jesus, leads us to right thinking, wisdom and robust mental health. Sadly, the seduction of this corrupt world begins its relentless assault on our minds as soon as we are born into it. The mental WILLness begins as we freely reject Him. Robbed of righteous, clear thinking, the more we choose to follow the wide path to destruction, by making choices that lead us in the direction of death, instead of life, the more our minds are rendered incapacitated and we become ever more mentally ill, deficient or diseased. The only answer to mental illness is for one to be transformed by the renewing of one’s mind in Jesus. Personal purification is required not only for the salvation of our individual souls, but for also for the salvation of our world.

  12. TheApostlePaul says:

    *The feds tell us we are in a permanent state of war, so why is our military in a permanent state of disarmament?*

    This might be a tad off the subject, but the “permanent state of war” question is a real one. I’m reading Jeremy Scahill’s history of Blackwater right now (simply titled “Blackwater”) and it’s one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever read. At least at the time of the book’s writing, the US military was, in essence, being phased out in favor of a private military force. 90% of the tax money being thrown into Iraq went to funding mercenary armies (“contractors”), Blackwater (now “Academi,” but let’s face it, it’s still “Blackwater) being the largest and most visible.

    These private mercenaries are paid several times what US troops are paid, and are not subject to the US code of military justice (despite the protestations of Erik Prince, Blackwater’s founder) or typical rules of engagement. A large percentage of their personnel come from countries that have no stake in America, or are even openly hostile to Americans. American servicemen may not be able to openly carry weapons on US bases, but I’ve got twenty bucks that says Blackwater mercenaries don’t think twice about it.

    We will be in a “permanent state of war” as long as we allow war profiteering. Under the law, the life of a privately contracted mercenary is worth several times that of a US soldier. And it ain’t “the feds” behind it…it’s Donald Rumsfeld.

    • cdciii says:

      Just a note, AP: we will be in a permanent state of war as long as any one person wants what another has and is willing to do whatever it takes to get it, get it? IOW, Blackwater or not, we live in a state of potential war at all times in history. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

  13. Claire says:

    “Nothing gets better because we’re afraid to honestly inspect the problem.” In my opinion – this is the root of most of the problems we have in this country. Along with the fact that the problems have become so big (healthcare industry) that thoroughly examining in their totality them would be hard for anyone. So many of these issues are deeply rooted personal concerns and required one to be open and vulnerable to discuss properly and many would do anything rather than confront their own mistakes or short comings. We need to accept we are broken before we try to go about fixing.

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  16. I agree again. It is sad, but we do have a very special case of stupid running rampant in this country. For most of these, there mess are the “easy” way out of just dealing with the normal problems of life. Just tragic. Of course, pharmaceutical companies sing the praises of these drugs while continuing to gain an absurd amount of wealth. Sigh.

  17. The Mommy says:

    Here’s the thing: Let’s say our country is invaded. It’s not likely (really, I hope) but if it were, on a massive scale, wouldn’t we want our military to be able to defend our country and it’s inhabitants WHILE THEY’RE IN OUR COUNTRY? Like you, I was shocked the first time this happened and I found out they weren’t armed – not a one of ’em – unless they were in the “security detail” (which I naively thought meant “the military” but, alas, no). My mind can’t even comprehend the whys of this “rule”. I – just-no words. Except the ever classic given by my children – DUH!

  18. TR says:

    Something that I have been thinking a lot about lately is why these places? Ft. Hood has been the location of 2 attacks and the Columbine and Aurora shootings as well as another attempted school shoot were all within a few miles of each other. Is it something in the culture of an area, exposure to stories or experiences, or something else that makes these places more susceptible to another attack? Is there something we can do in the aftermath to help minimize this risk?

    • Marci Delaney says:

      Fort Hood is the largest Army base in the US. Columbine and Aurora are next to (I think it’s called) Stapleton Base and most of the military (parents) there are with Strategic Air Command which manages many secrets. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that our enemies, both internal and external, are watching our responses, learning our weaknesses and making plans to exploit them. I think the face of military bases is rapidly changing and, although in the past it was deemed unnecessary to allow military personnel not in the Security detail to carry firearms, I believe it has now become needed. My father was a 23 year vet and I lived on military bases until I was 16 and he retired. When we were in off-base housing overseas, we always had guard dogs and armed personnel protecting the compounds. I always felt safe and protected. I was never so scared in my life when we moved to a large city after his retirement, went to a large local school and lived a ‘normal’ life. Military families give up a lot to enable their loved ones to protect the United States. The very least they deserve is to feel safe again while they are on base. And that means letting the appropriately qualified, perhaps non-medicated, military people to be armed on base. In my humble opinion.

  19. I think that as more and more bodies pile up we will be ready as a society to declare that there is a significant risk to public safety in maintaining the confidentiality of psychiatric records. Even if only for the purposes of firearm background checks, off-limits to all other uses.

  20. THANK YOU MATT. Seriously, truly, from the bottom of my heart, for saying what needs to be said about the psychiatric drugs. The answer from the media and the public is “force more people to take the drugs, and then lock them away forever in institutions”. I was brought into the “mental health” system at the tender age of 14 (now there are 3 year old on this crap) and I didn’t escape until I was 21. I was forcibly injected with anti-psychotics, I KNOW what it is like. Guess what? GOD CHANGE MY LIFE, and I am free from the drugs the doctors insisted I “needed forever” to “fix the chemical imbalance in my brain” for FIVE YEARS and I am WELL 😀 PRAISE GOD

  21. ThreadTime says:

    Points well made, in my opinion.

    All else aside, an American military base should be the last place an attack of this sort could be successfully carried out. As you’ve pointed out, there are soldiers fully trained in combat and qualified to be armed. Drugs, crazy, mad … it wouldn’t matter, the shooter would be neutralized before this kind of damage could be done.

  22. bravo Matt, you and I are on the same page with this issue, my mind was raped and my mind and spirit savagely destroyed with this, I am still recovering to this day, i wrote about this issue on my blog at http://gospelperspective.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/drug-induced-insanity/ never again, sadly i was 2 young to know better but i know how to protect my kids from this satanic method of mind control

  23. chamblee54 says:

    Was Ivan Lopez a Christian?

    • Curtis says:

      Even if he said he was, saying it and actually living it are two separate things. Christ was clear about this: that claiming belief was not the same as honest and active pursuit of one’s relationship with God.

  24. Melissa says:

    A lot of times, being on these meds is the lesser of two evils. Servicemen and women returning from combat, especially if they’ve been injured, are usually medicated for PTSD, anxiety, pain, etc. Living with chronic pain and flashbacks can lead a soldier to suicidal ideations. So they are medicated to help alleviate these problems. Sometimes it takes a while to figure out the right dosage and medications, but a lot of these men and women DO need something to help them. And I can guarantee you that a LOT of different methods are used, not just medications. Counseling, acupuncture, prayer, massage, EMDR, recreational therapies, talk therapy and groups, etc. My husband is a severely injured veteran from Iraq and he has been well cared for. We have done lots of different types of therapies for him, and have come to the conclusion that he will most likely always be medicated, and we are okay with that. I am medicated also. Our life has been changed forever by war, and we do what we can to cope. If medications help, so be it. I’m not going to pretend like I’m ok and like I don’t need help, nor is he. We have tried everything to get back to where we once were, before his injuries. Sometimes it just takes a while for medications to stabilize, and for doctors to figure out what works best. Some people have adverse reactions to Vicodin or Tylenol, or benadryl, for that matter. The same goes for psychotropic medications; you don’t know until you try them. I think the military knows what they’re doing. Our guys (and gals) are well supported, in my opinion and from my experiences.

  25. ccoffer says:

    These sorts of episodes never happen at police stations or at gun shows. Crazy people are only a little bit crazy, apparently.

  26. Abby says:

    I don’t think we as Americans spend enough time looking at the spiritual aspects of stories like these. We have forgotten that mankind, left to its own devices, is evil by nature, and we act surprised when things like this happen. We have stacked up powder kegs of mental illness, prescription drugs, ridiculous gun regulations, and spiritual darkness, and so on and then wished men and women carrying nothing but lighters and matches good luck.

    We can’t fix the problem of the twisted tree and poisoned fruit if we refuse to put the axe to the roots. We spend all our time chopping off branches and wondering why it keeps growing back. Questions about gun control, mental illness, medication, and so on are useful, but they aren’t the root of the problem. Human nature and the realm of the spiritual is where you’ll find the roots. Ah, but that’s just ignorance and superstition, right?

  27. Karen says:

    With both of my teens going through normal teenage angst , I ran into a situation I never experienced before, friends, teachers , relatives, taking them aside and confiding their own drug use , and telling my girls they had to get onto these drugs also .Or their lives would be “ruined” by depression and anxiety. I noticed a huge increase in their normal teenage angst when they had been talked to in this manner.( Thanks to all the friends teachers and relatives,,,sooo helpful) . So being cornered so to speak I trotted them off to a psychologist , who actually agreed that they have normal teenage angst and of course do not need any drugs, which after hearing this from a professional they now have a decrease in their normal depression and are kind of impressed with their own ability to cope. Almost all of their “normal average friends” are drugged .WOW.

  28. Well expressed thoughts Matt. WE are asking for answers without asking the correct questions. Cause and Effect – throwing this out here. When asking a volunteer to head for Space, that person is tested for rational thinking — and many other things? Would we consider hiring a drugged up pilot?
    Of course lots of capable and balanced people in the military and law enforcement. What about what sometimes happens: Hire the person barely able to pass a competence test, problem solving test, common sense test.
    Money, follow the money, was that a line in a movie?
    I once caught a couple police officers (city police) driving out in the country hardly a mile out of the city limits, it was a gravel road without a “center line”. We met at the top of a hill and you all can guess where they were. City Shit in the middle of the road. I was near the edge and had to drive into the grass to avoid the head on collision with scum of the earth, barely smart enough to be human. “We The People” should stop paying for stupid. I consider this a threat to my life with a deadly weapon.

  29. Andrew says:

    I agree with you, but I feel its necessary to point out that Roman soldiers, while required to be armed at all times, were also not allowed to go to Rome itself as soldiers. They had to disband and disarm before they could approach the city.

  30. Carolyn says:

    Thanks SO much for talking about this. Almost all school shooters are on a psychotropic drugs. And these are people who’s brains are not even fully developed- and certainly no drug trials are done on adolecents. The attorney general in Connecticut is refusing to release the toxicology report on the Newtown shooter for fear that it’s release would inspire other young boys from stopping their medications. These are the people in charge in government. So deluded.

    I think you would really appreciate the Gary Null documentary called “The Drugging of Our Children”. I think you can find it on youtube… In it Michael Moore admits taht the two Colombine shooters where on some cocktails of their own. Gary got him to appear in the film by basically threatening to expose the truth behind his filming of Bowling For Colombine. Apparantly Moore was told over and over again by the students that the cause of the massacre were the drugs these kids took. THAT part didn’t make it into his film. Or any press coverage of the event- and that was over a decade ago. Think of how many people could have been saved.

    Also- I think you would be shocked/well educated by Robert Whitaker’s book “Anatomy of an Epidemic” about the so called rise in mental health disorders. It’s a really amazing book.

    I know this will sound harsh- it’s halarious to me that it’s probably the same people who are clamoring for the legalization of street drugs who are doped up on prescription pills as well. They just seem so weak! Why doesn’t anyone ever call them on that? Prod them to try a little harder at their lives? Their mental and spiritual laziness is astounding- their refusual to grow and learn and gain wisdom through experiencing the ups and downs of human existence- their denial of SELF isn’t insane- it’s sloth. Like everyone else on the planet my life has been a mixed bag – but I relish experiencing various states of being- happy, sad, optimistic, scared, anxious, indecisive, ebullient, stupid, tired, wired,creative, meditative. Taking drugs means turing off your light and abdicating agency. It means never learning or growing in spirit. It’s cheating on life just like Lance Armstrong cheated in cycling. Except the 1 in 5 Americans doping tax us all as a society (there are countless stories of people becoming wards of the state and costing taxpayers millions of dollars each as a result of side effects of psych meds- one story Whitaker tells of a young girl who was put on a “cocktail” for sometimes wetting her bed- today she is ruined- living on welfare, on yet another cocktail, and constantly shakes as a result of her medications).

    It’s hard to decide who is more dangerous in these situations- a medicated person with a gun and a cloudy mind or the script-happy psychiatrists who never suffer any recourse.

    • Marci says:

      It’s so easy to bag the drugs and saying they cause one to amount to ‘never learning or growing in spirit. It’s cheating on life’. I’ve been on anti-depressants for over 20 years and psycho med’s for over 10. During that time I’ve completed a Masters Degree on the Dean’s List after 30 years out of Uni, been a CEO of a multimillion $$ company and Chairman of the Board of a $25M start up company. I also teach Christian religion to over 200 children each week. My light is definitely turned on, I’m growing every day in the Holy Spirit and I experience all the usual emotions other people have. But I am able to cope with them better than I can without the medication. It’s horses for courses…not everyone will have the life I have while on med’s, but it’s not correct to classify all of us with one negative brush.

  31. Nobody Atall says:

    “In my innocence, prior to the (first) Fort Hood rampage, I sort of assumed that the military members on a military base would be perpetually locked and loaded every day – because, you know, it’s a military base. It’s a target. It’s a place where everyone ought to be prepared for the worst, because that’s why it exists. It’s a military base. These are trained and disciplined men and women. These people are in the military. Their weapons are tools of their trade. It’s a military base, for God’s sake.”

    God bless you, Matt. A man after my own heart … this is exactly how I feel.

  32. Alexandra says:

    So we don’t need gun control. We need drug control. Specifically, legal drugs peddled by pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession. Makes sense to me! But lots of luck. There’s too much money being made there.

  33. Herve Abrams says:

    In response to, “We trust these people to fight wars, operate battleships, fly jets, drop bombs, use drones, go on Special Forces missions, but we don’t think they’re competent or psychologically stable enough to carry a weapon to work without accidentally shooting each other?”

    “A fellow Marine remained in custody Wednesday after military officials say he fatally wounded a colleague with his M4 rifle. The shooting happened at 5:30 p.m. inside a guard shack at the base, said Fahy.
    “The initial assessment from NCIS officials indicates the shooting death of the Main Gate Marine sentry was likely caused by a negligent discharge, however it will take several weeks of forensic examination to confirm this with absolute certainty,” said Nat Fahy, Director of Public Affairs for Camp Lejeune.


  34. Misti says:

    As a therapist who treats individuals with anxiety and depression I am required by law to inform my clients about research supported treatment. I do inform them of both the “benefits” and risks associated with these medications. Personally, I would prefer my clients not take the meds, unless absolutely necessary for just the reasons you stated. I’m very concerned that these meds are used as a replacement to real resolutions of the root causes for many people. The meds should only be prescribed and taken when other methods are not effective. Popping a pill to avoid dealing with conflict, making lifestyle changes, or forgiving others is not effective, in my personal opinion.

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